The leader of the "orgies Righteous" Sergey Kalugin - not only a virtuoso guitarist with a classical education, not only the ideology of the most serious ideological groups in the country, but also a philosopher in life. On the eve of the presentation of the new DVD columnist News Music guru Ken talks to the musicians on the fate of a creative person and group plans for the future. - 17 February at the "Orange" organize a presentation of his new DVD. However, a DVD ("Take on Life") They were what the idea of publishing a second Secure the concert sound of the album? "Leaving the sun" - and a history of trying something more - all our history again and again to make it better and better Speaking of convoluted language -. closer to the archetype, which we ourselves were from the moment we realized together, but unfortunately we had initially no technical or personal or professional forces, instant this vision come true.. It's hard enough to get the first album, so to speak, educated people. "Yes, the first attempt we have all happened more or less" Especially in our country where rock music has no schools, no teachers, no tradition of all to look and find yourself And there are no structures, whose existence on the one hand, would depend on the rock, on the other hand claims that music -. I mean labels, concert agencies, producers, etc. No sound and producers who declare immediately the advantages of the project and could, the musicians, as they emphasize. We are ourselves from the ground up, with no support at all structures. We see no other possibility than to provide for themselves. But the downside of this independence, the guitarist says, with every new album that we, in fact, over and over again to write, we the same record. We do it all the clearer and sharper. The album "Leaving the sun" we were finally able to bring the efficiency. Considering the idea, which was originally founded and comprehensibility of reports, the resulting output is off, 50 percent We were able to more or less clearly, what the hell are we had with the first record in mind. Thus, in the music, but the same goes for the stage show, which begins to emerge little by little, and videos, stage costumes, etc. In this sense, our new DVD, "Solstice" - only more or less convincing live performance the man. bring the player into the CD "Leaving the sun", not only to catch our message, but to understand what we as a studio project, we work with a sound like a game. I wish that was the same with the DVD - that the man pushed him into the player and could clearly see the tape, make sure to live your eyes and ears, the "orgy" is clear, beautiful and interesting . I wish that was the same with the DVD - that the man pushed him into the player and could clearly see the tape, make sure to live your eyes and ears, the "orgy" is clear, beautiful and interesting . - For the first DVD, it turns out, are you ashamed? - We are unable to redeem Sun perfectionists own old public transport and destroy them, as well as some of the poets. The first DVD was in time for its time it was made big. But today, the prices that we categorically reject. - There are instances of it? - A little to the left. Actually sold. Print, I do not think we are. Sun one who bought it will ultimately collector material. We need to understand the television while recording a live show, and this is how to write the first DVD - this is the sound control technology, very dry. Technically, the channel, where we played, the device is not perfect, channel a romantic works for the idea and the money for the equipment it a little. In addition, we played perfectly. It was still the first record of our material live. The fact that the record does not send signals to the backing vocals - this is nonsense, tell you a secret, that the records were turned drums! Thank God it has not noticed, we have to play fairly smoothly, there is a ripple, and it feels right. But in fact there is no record in the race. And in the room it was! This is due to the fact that our hapless operators had broken and the hall and on record. If we record a new DVD, we certainly those lazhi not allowed. We work only one operator at a hall, another person the record. While recording their first DVD, we could not afford, such a luxury. - Where "record? - In St. Petersburg," a new DVD "Solstice Leaving the sun" The club Orlandina upon presentation of the album here in St. Petersburg traditionally very loyal audience, which always creates a few new rituals at concerts.. In particular, recognizing St. Petersburg fans my dream - mass release of balloons on the song "Kill your mother." This point is on the DVD. There is a lot that has come together - the concert of the St. Petersburg theater guys came fire "vassal". They say, "Let's fire polyhnem during the concert." We were happy and, of course, agreed. Received a blank hectic, but still a hint of pyrotechnic show. And if, during "The Boat" audience suddenly lit fireworks - I just can not stop because I got a lump in my throat have. There are a lot of fireworks dragged them, flashed right. Time flies, and today is the concert - is history. In the form in which we stand in this video we are long gone. Much has changed for the better. Tools have changed, the behavior on the stage and even superficially we look different. The benefits of the new DVD - we made an honest sound. It is no secret that many live albums as this is written: play a gig, and then in the studio everything rewritten so that only a respite, the entire "live" atmosphere. We do not rewrite. Our correction, what happened was minimal. The viewer gets a fair idea of the sound team at the concert. - The disc is bonuses? - There is. It is a great bonus. Documentary about how we wrote "the setting sun." I swear I'm 11 years old wanted to see me on a documentary! Epic! In general, of course I wanted to see it on channel ... - And how it was filmed? - The traditional practice. One writes the next two aid, and the third goes around with a camera and shoot. Then we all gave Volodya Martynkinu, bassist of the "Sledgehammer" that our first two videos filmed, he broadcasters. In my opinion, we have a masterpiece. Despite the rather chaotic traffic ... Now, what is the operator remove unprofessional ... But black and white is ennobled, and Volodya very good all mounted. The film has been carried out so turned on that after visiting just break the plane for completeness. While the optics - cry feelings of self-pity. Not from the depths of compassion, but of sublime sorrow of the tragic and the pristine beauty of the people you see on the screen. The fact that these people are and you have, in fact, the end of life on the cattle - it is not saved. The magical power of art, dammit! Even self-deceived. In general, as honest men, we had to break after this film, but we beat this thing. - Perfectionism is not enough? - Perfectionism is not enough, yes. The second bonus - a group photo. You know, if the concert - which is good if after the documentary people have to be broken to see if after all these photos .... We are, in short, is not that break - we were forced to go to storm the Kremlin and killed with assault in the first second! Everything is designed obrydalsya stir. And he - obrydaetsya! If not a joke, the album "the setting sun" and the live album - a myth, a legend of sorts that can affect the human mind. In this sense, what we have done, we have done in keeping this myth. I have a lot of respect for the myth itself I believe that this is the reality of a higher order than our random chaotic reality. And in this case, I believe the myth was a success and will be in the hearts of people to act. - The album, which was released "the setting sun" and the DVD that comes after that - That is, a delayed action "Solstice.". It's amazing. - Yes. Talk about how to get the names, I will not, because it's so malokontroliruemy process ... So it was with the group's name. Fans come to us. As "orgy of the righteous", and so we loaded the name of a large number of meanings and implications But first, we just liked the phrase. And. With "Solstice" It has been suggested this name, and everyone has loved it. And it was not born in the band, and in the immediate vicinity. In fact, there are many references. Remember, "Sun for us" kinchevskaya - which is the sun, standing against the darkness. Not only the day and night are equal, namely the forces of light, is powerful and confident against the powers of darkness. Thus, by the way, does not appear on the cover of a display astronomical solstice, and contrary to the image of the eclipse, the sun on the black moon, which it closes. Lots of interesting things hidden in the title. This stability of the heroes that we eat, in the modern world. Do not hesitate, this is our stability, for so many years, we somehow manage to work efficiently, despite the situation in culture. This stability of our public. Something like that. - Then ask interesting, as you can see "an orgy of the righteous." You said this latest album -. 50 percent of what we want What is that 50 percent? - Here is a purely technological point of view. We are your preferred source, laid a solid, but unfortunately I missed one thing. Acoustic guitar had to make a more focused player in the process. In principle, it should be on an equal footing with the electric guitar. Unfortunately it turned out that the electric guitarist dotumkal how to indestructible. From others, and I'm at that point yet, I realized how it can be rotated In the next album, I hope we can achieve. We now know more about the enrollment, the more we know about how to play, it was all so convincing. Conceptually, "the setting sun" we have already mentioned. Next it will be the same, just be sharper, clearer, more understandable. - Here BG likes to say that he never impose anything. Everyone knows the best of his understanding, to the best of their level in a measure of understanding the world. You, I believe, refers to a different kind of front man, so to speak. Closer to the kind Kincheva, Shevchuk. In the sense that you have a clear ideology. And you try to convince the listener loyalty ... - Your own views. - Yes. It is from this perspective, if there any doubt? Doubt peculiar to you? - First I want to say that Boris Borisovich ideology no less bright than me. Question, in which form it has. He spreads soft, hard to sleep. All in all, it is as wide as it is long. Boris also show their own understanding of reality and try to argue only. In general, we do not differ much in the sense of reality, I'm just psycho somehow closer to the Kshatriya, and he said to the Brahmins, that's all. That to me is art - this is war, and for him, in the best case - a sermon. Doubt ... I again this Kshatriya approach. I think that's what you're not one hundred percent makes sure it does not make sense to someone out there and deliver. Absolute truth is of course unattainable, but it is necessary to act as if you possess the truth. This is the only way to make it to approach in any way. And if you're with a man whose understanding is more comprehensive than your face, there is a question of inner integrity. Either admit that it is wrong to lay down their arms, accept other view was - the enemy was stronger. Not in the sense of a frontal collision, who is not pereoret. But someone is synthetic understanding, bulkier. Absolute Truth encompasses everything. She is the one, but it includes everything, so that the larger view. Closer to the very only absolute truth that is simple and it is so unique There is no assignment of pluralism and difference. Pluralism says that the real deal. No, I think that's the truth, but it's a, as the only Lord God, of all imaginable and unimaginable, existing and non-existing hugs. Were such that calms me down. For example, our guitarist. I argued that the analogy has limits, and it is claimed that the analogy has no boundaries, that it simply human fatigue continue the analogy. I thought 3 months, came to the conclusion that he was right, and changed his mind. - I'm always interested in creative people, the history, to tell again very gladly tell Grebenshikov, somehow never applied to themselves. If a person has a certain degree of enlightenment and perfection, it is absolutely no reason for someone to teach, to convince absolutely no reason, probably, probably it will be quiet, not even appear, but to behave accordingly. Musicians on stage and perform in front of an audience. Hence the question: is their imperfections, flaws and contradictions of every move they know what to do? What do you think? - You know, that makes sense, remember the inverse image of the Bodhisattva. A man who ran for a while, went away from the people in order to understand something. And as soon as he realized he could not stay in this sense, and is really more in a hurry, and can get back to the fact that, as the Buddhists say, to help other living beings attain liberation. This sounds cheeky, I know it sounds quite rude. But it is an action of selflessness, because as it is all to himself. Suppose, just for attaining enlightenment: Sat, nothing to do, it comes to you, in general. The question is what to do next. Because if you're doing an action that certainly has to be some kind of reaction. - The acquisition of the wealth of happiness turns into a process of decay? - No. This is something that resembles the Christian kenosis. This descent. If Christ was executed as a contempt of death - whether we understand that in Christ, there was need retribution for his actions? It is so decayed as bandits crucified with him were? Of course not. Christ was God and fully man. But he came to the fate of the contempt of death, to save all. Any attempt a bite to refine a bit self poryadochek lead - stumbles upon the necessity of sacrifice. In this sense, I said, to a certain point, the angels of heaven and the demons along the way that. Since both do not like this world. Sometimes he is not satisfied, and others may not because they are not authorized to make it to hell because they are not allowed to turn it into a paradise. And since they are very similar. In Kamchatka, in a class next to future criminals sit and future artists. Both against the world, she found both strong enough to figure it out. Another thing is that they will do next. Art - a good game, a good game and I see no degradation. This is a sacrifice. Aside from the fact that it is a game - a game, nothing more and nothing less than playing a terrorist who blows up a shopping mall. - The art gives the viewer an understanding of the world? - Most offers to deepen understanding. - From this point of view, a pity that such a situation in Russia now. Musicians now it's not so simple, even the most famous. This is a test for any sins or logical wave which then falls, then rises? Or no crisis of the genre in general? - No, it's much easier and went. Quite simply, we are witnessing the formation of a very brave new world, the same Orwellian "1984", the. Now on a global scale After all, rock - only a part of the culture itself if we look, we see that all but the culture of consumption prohibited. And why not? Since it is implemented in a very clear vision for the future of the world. In Russia - huge reserves of raw materials, the need to keep somehow. Here are the plans of the new world economy, which is formed, we will for the role of the people, which open and close the tube pipe are prepared for it. Unzip the metal and send it to where they are processed. What the hell are we doing in this regard culture? First, the population will be smaller, in which so many people. Why is medicine, education, falls culture. Because if people have a culture, they can occur suddenly their interests and the interests are in conflict with the general plan. This sum will deceive both in America and in Russia and everywhere. A culture, it also awakens people. Therefore, it is ruined, so it is difficult. - I ask for a bit of a different opinion. I see that in the last ten years, and the doctors and teachers, and especially some scientists feel more comfortable. I'm not talking about the political situation. On the real, everyday, everyday. Those people who do not buy yet in a position to pasta, now eat oil. - Unprofitable same ... I remember at the time of the Soviet Union went to the village, it was a farm, surrounded by nothing but water meadows surrounded, with the unfortunate cows cotton. Since there was no drinking shepherds the shepherd, there was no one to drive these cows on the meadow. As a result, they were rotting in his barn wool in Uzbekistan have to feed. One day, this wool came with metal filings, the cow died. Each cow has three liters of milk a cotton instead of 60, which is a normal cow. Overall, it was a disaster. Of course people keep unprofitable in this state. So, of course, feed - feed, nothing to fear. Will live, but a kind bredyatina national interests - that excuse. There is no one better say Pelevin. Participation in the cockroach races. In fact, everything is sad. We found a fan in Brazil, which is pulled up to our music six months 200 Brazilians, and now, perhaps, much more. Write to us and rzhem because they have the same as ours. They buy all kinds of ether the labels named "Jaba". I say, as we "Jaba" have so, so much worth to buy broadcast on the channel. He says, "Well, no shit me you Jaba we even easier with him." But still. And he said that the people there do not have. He complains, "We have such a great culture and all that shit!". Really interesting culture in Brazil. And he tries to somehow interested fights in his place. A young man, 20 years. I am nothing in his fathers. We are pleased with the choice to speak. In Russia, on election day, write to him that the elections went. He says, "Happy People, I can not go to the polls." I am also interested. There are problems with the police or at work will be? No, he said, we all have been reduced to a magic card. This is a prototype of a microchip implant that everything will be in a few years. In a card combines the functions of insurance, passports - not everything a man tied to society, united in this map. Without it, he can not be treated, you can not buy a plane ticket, he can not go on the train, do not pay for your purchases - which in the Gospel written, that in the time of Antichrist people to buy not to be able and without selling pressure. So all-all-all driven in the map. And if people do not come to the polls, and for several days no convincing explanation as to why he does not come in this election, then he ran off the map, it is completely isolated, he can not. Left really turn this card into a micro chip implanted in his hand and a hello, you know? These cards are very good, very comfortable, but what culture, what are you? Why is that? Culture - it's just that occur to defend the freedom of man, man's ability to exist independently. - Is not it at all times, there is definitely pressure on the culture? Is it time to serfdom, for example, the culture was easier than it is now? I think not. - And you do not believe in just to see the Gothic cathedral, and it is clear. Deep historical myths are false. Because it takes a little more history of the people, is the absurdity of the myth of the same Middle Ages as a dark clogged time. Brightest time that people actually live in a fairy tale in those days. Yes, there were all kinds of trouble as the same plague, a plague decimated the people, but now, a year in Moscow alone is 40,000 cars, no less divided. Well, what's the difference - the plague, or the people in these self-propelled boxes hurt yourself? In this sense, the risk of human life has changed very little. Today, the same day as it was yesterday. But in the sense that human life was realized that it was a religious-cultural project, which was a sense of belonging to the project, a sense of its place in the world, it makes sense, the effort provided. The ability to interact with the temple. Now the artist is nothing that can not enter the church because the church was closed, the temple and scared away every free paper was rejected. It happened so long ago that now, any attempt to bring him back and forth to the temple to terrible results, have long parted ways. Here come the museum and look at the case, it is carved the Magi came from Constantinople. We look - no shit me loose. And why not? Because the man who cut him understood that the temple is built to cut the altar call. That is, it was a place where he could not only receive God's grace and power, he was able to pass in the opposite direction, and it elevates and ennobles all his life. If you have a goal - cutting the altar of the church, then you and the cabinet is cut, like an altar. If not this sanctuary, this point of the application, everything is blank. It is sad to admit, while we now have enough wild. - You have a very interesting album "of the setting sun." He did not, unfortunately, the album of the year, because not many people could hear it. Of course, the album of the year - is the one who heard it. Where will continue to move "Orgy of the righteous?" - We have, of course, the situation is even worse than in Europe. It is strongly inherited in 1917 and ikaetsya so far. At the same Europe even more opportunities for musicians, our colleagues. They used us in a professional sense to grow, there are structures that support them. The examples that exist in Europe, they will lead us. Of course, we are going in the direction that this album was an event, and nationally and globally. That said, we of course, most die of old age before this rain. But still, had fewer goal just makes no sense, and even in front of you where you are on the way to achieve - this is the tenth case. It is an example of Rammstein, combining the most striking in the German culture in general. They all agree: German folk songs, theater, Bertolt Brecht, Rhineland mystics, the German Romantics, the culture of the Third Reich, the German S & M - the most disgusting in the world, the most memorable, German Metal, German Euro disco, German techno music, electronic music like Kraftwerk. All of this was merged into a koglomerat. They just took the liveliest as Germany honors. And world fame. As a result of what they did - they moved with a sense of national guilt of the Germans, who were after the Second World War. Six comedians, artists and fools have done, what they could not do politics, it might not be a serious composer, no one could do. Rammstein did. Germany sighed and clear: "We - the Germans, it's cool." Complete universal group Red Hot Chili Peppers, the. Also blowing up the world Such a blast! Indian gods came and claimed their rights in America. "Orgy of the Righteous" trying to unite all the most valuable thing that was in Russian culture, and create a kind of inner integrity. But strategically, we will try the same storm west to go to festivals, where the - Normally musicians say that everything we eat is really about love. Can you say that? - Yes, of course. Because art in general - is a story about love. Love between a man and a woman - endlessly special case of this love, I am pleased with the divine eros, love, the world is talking. We try to tell stories of love travel - beautiful or terrible, it does not matter. In this sense there are no fundamental importance that this love is, it can happen, nothing. But if, as the object of the story - even if the hidden object - it's art. Love what we do. Guru KEN, NEWSmusic.ru
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